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between the cells and the healer turns

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out to be unimportant the cells were set

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up in a certain way in the laboratory

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they were always set up that way thus

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the healers were able to visualize how

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those cells were set up they initially

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worked on the cells in culture in our

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lab via the telephone

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we had healers that worked on the cells

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in culture from a distance of some 6,000

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miles same result as if the healer were

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in the lab we shielded in a set of about

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a hundred experiments we shielded though

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the cells in the lab from INF EMF and

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away similarly shielded at prescribed

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times the healer worked themselves in

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culture same results as if the healer

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win the laboratory so whatever this

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healing process involves it involves

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some form of energy ie

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subtle energy that is something we

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certainly do not understand and is

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different from any kind of energy form

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that we know about the experience of the

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healers were slightly important even but

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even a beginning student could actually

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produce a result the effects were

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actually enhanced by group healing group

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healers actually treating cells both

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before and after radiation so survival

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rates actually went up to something like

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98% healers however failed to produce a

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result in about 12% of the experiments

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even it's very clean lab 12% of the

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experiments failed these findings I

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think are very difficult to explain in

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terms of the standard scientific

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paradigm it's curious my physics friends

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really don't have too many problems with

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this my colleagues in medicine biology

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let's look at the importance of

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conditioned workspace these eight

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hundred and fifty-four experiments done

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in the conditioned space failed twelve

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percent of the time or 102 out of 850

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in a non conditioned lab that is a lab

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that was treated that was not treated by

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pranic healers no effect in 90% of the

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experiments very dirty lab 100% failure

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moving right along let me quickly look

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at the investigation of this 12 percent

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failure rate in the previous experiment

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we actually had a healer plus a cell

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manager in a new set of experiments a

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hundred that we did we know they had a

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healer but a cell manager as well as

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someone that observed this and what this

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observer did was the following as the

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experiment was going on they picked up

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their cell phone and call their favorite

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charity and made a donation to that

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charity and willed any good karma that

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came from that gift of money to the

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charity to go to these cells and the

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change in to the survival rate kind of a

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strange experiment but here the results

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there were there was no improvement in

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the cell survival rates but the failure

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rate dropped from 12% to 4% no

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correlations between success rate and

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amount donated or charity used and I'd

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suggest that this represents the first

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experimental observation and measurement

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of karmic intervention summary

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particular can reverse the effects of

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radiation on cells and culture results

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are independent of shielding and of

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distance between the healer and the

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subject results are dependent on one

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condition of lab space however and

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perhaps the results are improved by

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karmic intervention the results are

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inconsistent with the Newtonian physics

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worldview and I should note that

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Newtonian physics is the basis for

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contemporary biology and Western

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medicine and that these results are

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probably consistent with a more quantum

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mechanical worldview I'd like to just

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take one minute to provide a couple of

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comments some of you have heard these

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comments before which I apologize but

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let me let me go in anyway with some

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final remarks in our culture today space

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described as a final frontier let me

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suggest to you that the data presented

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here clearly shows that there is yet

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another frontier a frontier beyond our

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common notions of space and time that

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involves the power of the mind of the

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mind through focus intentionality to

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intervene in and to change the physical

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world to approach this new frontier will

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require a new worldview and a new

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paradigm for science perhaps even a

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formalism in which science and

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spirituality are finally United

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this coming paradigm shift may well be

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important as those that occurred with

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Galileo or with Darwin it will change

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forever the way in which we heal one

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another and the way in which we view

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ourselves in the universe

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opening infinite possibilities for those

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Thank You Joey very very exciting work I

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see some hands in the back you define

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success as the difference in survival

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rate between experimental control groups

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do you have any sense about whether the

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control groups in the clean lab had a

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different survival rate than the control

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groups in the dirty lab no no they did

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the healers the criteria for choosing

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they could could make changes in the

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cells in culture and were willing to do

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the experiments basically there were a

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number of healers that when that eagerly

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volunteered for these for these studies

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but then when the studies were explained

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to them backed off but cause I think

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they felt they were going to get tested

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and so it was it was virtually I mean we

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basically anyone that felt that they

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to ask you if any of the healers made a

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distinction between not even recognizing

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the difference between the energy in the

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lab and the energy in the cell perhaps

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focusing on the fact that energy is

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energy and they could just go in and as

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they clean the lab they could so to

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speak clean the cells at the same time

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well there were certainly some healers

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that were less sensitive to the

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laboratory environment but we're still

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equally successfully treating the cells

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and culture

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it seemed that several of the healers

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were particularly sensitive to the

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environment they were working in and

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that in fact is what led us to do the

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cleaning of the lab bill Beatty what was

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the source of ionizing radiation

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it's a gamma a gamma source yeah I mean

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if what someone want to replicate it

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what would they have to find well

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actually it's a it's a fixed gamma ray

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source and we use several different ones

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during the course of study and I can I

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can give you some further details later

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but so fairly it's a standard gamma-ray

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source there's several different I'm

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Garrett Modell so bill Bankston asked

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the question about the clean lab versus

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the dirty lab and the control as you

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probably know in his results he had a

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lot of trouble controlling the control

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and just comparing what you did with

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what he did do you have any reason to or

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any explanations as to why you got

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different results than he did something

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okay let me I think that I probably

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responded his question incorrectly the

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if I remember correctly what he was

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asking was do we see differences in the

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control group and there were some

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slightly you know if you take the

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control group into the into the really

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dirty lab you do see some you do see

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some differences yeah you know and I

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think the major implications of the

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study are one of them

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occations is that many people have tried

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to conduct subtle energy experiments and

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if they conduct these experiments in a

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laboratory environment that's not

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conditioned they're going to get very

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poor results and this also clearly has

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implications for practitioners of any

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medical modality that if you treat

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patients in an environment that's dirty

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you're not going to get very good